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My friend helped me with my assignment. I was having a bit of trouble and he showed me what he did.
The assignment was a speech with a powerpoint in the background.

I did not receive any help in the speech and it was all my own work but two of my slides are similar to his, and I copied his table. The speech is the part directly getting assessed while the powerpoint is merely for the theatrics. This was all done with his permission and he himself showed me how he did the slides.

The powerpoint was twelve slides long. Does this constitute plagiarism?

paper-submission plagiarism

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  This is what I tell my students: cs.umb.edu/~eb/honesty . I'd approve of your getting help, as long as you acknowledged it.
  
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  Could you expand on what you mean by 'copied his table', and what this table contains? Did you literally copy and paste it into your own slide deck? Or did you use the same row and column labels, or other formatting? Did you perhaps just use the same PowerPoint table presets? Was the contents of the table something you have no flexibility in reporting, such as raw data?
  
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My friend helped me with my assignment. I was having a bit of trouble and he showed me what he did.
The assignment was a speech with a powerpoint in the background.

I did not receive any help in the speech and it was all my own work but two of my slides are similar to his, and I copied his table. The speech is the part directly getting assessed while the powerpoint is merely for the theatrics. This was all done with his permission and he himself showed me how he did the slides.

The powerpoint was twelve slides long. Does this constitute plagiarism?

paper-submission plagiarism

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  Is the theatrics evaluated in your grade?
  
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  This is what I tell my students: cs.umb.edu/~eb/honesty . I'd approve of your getting help, as long as you acknowledged it.
  
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  Could you expand on what you mean by 'copied his table', and what this table contains? Did you literally copy and paste it into your own slide deck? Or did you use the same row and column labels, or other formatting? Did you perhaps just use the same PowerPoint table presets? Was the contents of the table something you have no flexibility in reporting, such as raw data?
  
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My friend helped me with my assignment. I was having a bit of trouble and he showed me what he did.
The assignment was a speech with a powerpoint in the background.

I did not receive any help in the speech and it was all my own work but two of my slides are similar to his, and I copied his table. The speech is the part directly getting assessed while the powerpoint is merely for the theatrics. This was all done with his permission and he himself showed me how he did the slides.

The powerpoint was twelve slides long. Does this constitute plagiarism?

paper-submission plagiarism

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My friend helped me with my assignment...I copied his table...does this constitute plagiarism?

Yes: You copied his work, doing so without attribution is plagiarism.

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  But if you put a notation at the bottom: "Table from <name>" then it is not plagiarism.
  
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  @GEdgar what's the betting there was no mention...
  
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Whether it is plagiarism or not, and it is, may be less important than the bigger issue that it is almost certainly academic misconduct. Only your professor can give you advice on whether it is acceptable.

Getting some help may be fine, depending on the rules. Copying a table is less fine and becomes plagiarism if done without attribution. I would disallow it if I learn of it and would encourage you to do better. Since you are a student, I would even discourage your use of "similar" slides since you learn more by working independently and that is the point of the exercise.

The proportion of the copying makes no difference. I assume that you didn't reference your friend in the slide deck, making it plagiarism. I suspect that you think it is probably wrong to do this if you didn't cite the work of your friend.

Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact.

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  "The proportion of the copying makes no difference" - doesn't this lead to the heap paradox? Even with no copying, there will be at least a few words which will be the same. And if not that, then certainly some letters. If I've already seen "i++;" in someone else's program, am I forever forbidden to use it in my code? If not, then what is the smallest amount which is still fine?
  
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This was decades ago, but one of my professors told me, "I will accept work from you as "original" if you can produce it from memory without help." This would not include copy-pasting.

The reason for this test is to track your level of learning. If you could reproduce the table from memory, you would inevitably come up with some (perhaps small) difference from your friend's table. That would signify your learning the material.

You do not appear to have met that test.

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  This seems like a poor test for this scenario. Presumably OP now knows how to make tables in powerpoint (it is really quite easy, one or two clicks and its done). But you cant reasonably expect people to have memorized the data within their table. So I guess tables never count as original work? Or maybe with an exception for data, it does count as original work for OP? Neither seems right to me. We also have yet to get confirmation from OP that "copied his table" means literally copy/paste or a manual equilalent. It could mean that OP used the same row/column labels and style as his friend.
  
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  Finally, your test seems to be based on what OP "could" do, but then draw conclusions based on what he did do. We dont know that OP cant make such a table on his own. Plagiarism isnt based on what people can do, but what they have done.
  
  – Matt
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  @Matt: At this time, we don't know that the OP CAN reproduce this table from memory. We do know that he "copied." So the way for him to correct this is to "pull" the table that he submitted, and replace it with his own work, if it is not too late. And worst come to worst, maybe he'll learn something for next time.But if he had done it right the first time, there would be no need for him to worry about plagiarizing, or ask the question.
  
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  Yes. That is correct.
  
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13

My friend helped me with my assignment...I copied his table...does this constitute plagiarism?

Yes: You copied his work, doing so without attribution is plagiarism.

share|improve this answer

answered 16 hours ago

user2768user2768

15k33860

• 
  
  
  

  
  14
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  But if you put a notation at the bottom: "Table from <name>" then it is not plagiarism.
  
  – GEdgar
  16 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  4
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @GEdgar what's the betting there was no mention...
  
  – Solar Mike
  14 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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13

My friend helped me with my assignment...I copied his table...does this constitute plagiarism?

Yes: You copied his work, doing so without attribution is plagiarism.

share|improve this answer

answered 16 hours ago

user2768user2768

15k33860

• 
  
  
  

  
  14
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  But if you put a notation at the bottom: "Table from <name>" then it is not plagiarism.
  
  – GEdgar
  16 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  4
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @GEdgar what's the betting there was no mention...
  
  – Solar Mike
  14 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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My friend helped me with my assignment...I copied his table...does this constitute plagiarism?

Yes: You copied his work, doing so without attribution is plagiarism.

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answered 16 hours ago

user2768user2768

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answered 16 hours ago

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answered 16 hours ago

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Whether it is plagiarism or not, and it is, may be less important than the bigger issue that it is almost certainly academic misconduct. Only your professor can give you advice on whether it is acceptable.

Getting some help may be fine, depending on the rules. Copying a table is less fine and becomes plagiarism if done without attribution. I would disallow it if I learn of it and would encourage you to do better. Since you are a student, I would even discourage your use of "similar" slides since you learn more by working independently and that is the point of the exercise.

The proportion of the copying makes no difference. I assume that you didn't reference your friend in the slide deck, making it plagiarism. I suspect that you think it is probably wrong to do this if you didn't cite the work of your friend.

Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact.

share|improve this answer

answered 16 hours ago

BuffyBuffy

55.7k16175269

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  +1 for "Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact"
  
  – Neal Young
  6 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  "The proportion of the copying makes no difference" - doesn't this lead to the heap paradox? Even with no copying, there will be at least a few words which will be the same. And if not that, then certainly some letters. If I've already seen "i++;" in someone else's program, am I forever forbidden to use it in my code? If not, then what is the smallest amount which is still fine?
  
  – vsz
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

8

Whether it is plagiarism or not, and it is, may be less important than the bigger issue that it is almost certainly academic misconduct. Only your professor can give you advice on whether it is acceptable.

Getting some help may be fine, depending on the rules. Copying a table is less fine and becomes plagiarism if done without attribution. I would disallow it if I learn of it and would encourage you to do better. Since you are a student, I would even discourage your use of "similar" slides since you learn more by working independently and that is the point of the exercise.

The proportion of the copying makes no difference. I assume that you didn't reference your friend in the slide deck, making it plagiarism. I suspect that you think it is probably wrong to do this if you didn't cite the work of your friend.

Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact.

share|improve this answer

answered 16 hours ago

BuffyBuffy

55.7k16175269

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  +1 for "Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact"
  
  – Neal Young
  6 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  "The proportion of the copying makes no difference" - doesn't this lead to the heap paradox? Even with no copying, there will be at least a few words which will be the same. And if not that, then certainly some letters. If I've already seen "i++;" in someone else's program, am I forever forbidden to use it in my code? If not, then what is the smallest amount which is still fine?
  
  – vsz
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

Whether it is plagiarism or not, and it is, may be less important than the bigger issue that it is almost certainly academic misconduct. Only your professor can give you advice on whether it is acceptable.

Getting some help may be fine, depending on the rules. Copying a table is less fine and becomes plagiarism if done without attribution. I would disallow it if I learn of it and would encourage you to do better. Since you are a student, I would even discourage your use of "similar" slides since you learn more by working independently and that is the point of the exercise.

The proportion of the copying makes no difference. I assume that you didn't reference your friend in the slide deck, making it plagiarism. I suspect that you think it is probably wrong to do this if you didn't cite the work of your friend.

Don't lose track of the lesson that learning is the real objective, not the production of any artifact.

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answered 16 hours ago

BuffyBuffy

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BuffyBuffy

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This was decades ago, but one of my professors told me, "I will accept work from you as "original" if you can produce it from memory without help." This would not include copy-pasting.

The reason for this test is to track your level of learning. If you could reproduce the table from memory, you would inevitably come up with some (perhaps small) difference from your friend's table. That would signify your learning the material.

You do not appear to have met that test.

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answered 3 hours ago

Tom AuTom Au

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  This seems like a poor test for this scenario. Presumably OP now knows how to make tables in powerpoint (it is really quite easy, one or two clicks and its done). But you cant reasonably expect people to have memorized the data within their table. So I guess tables never count as original work? Or maybe with an exception for data, it does count as original work for OP? Neither seems right to me. We also have yet to get confirmation from OP that "copied his table" means literally copy/paste or a manual equilalent. It could mean that OP used the same row/column labels and style as his friend.
  
  – Matt
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  Finally, your test seems to be based on what OP "could" do, but then draw conclusions based on what he did do. We dont know that OP cant make such a table on his own. Plagiarism isnt based on what people can do, but what they have done.
  
  – Matt
  2 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Matt: At this time, we don't know that the OP CAN reproduce this table from memory. We do know that he "copied." So the way for him to correct this is to "pull" the table that he submitted, and replace it with his own work, if it is not too late. And worst come to worst, maybe he'll learn something for next time.But if he had done it right the first time, there would be no need for him to worry about plagiarizing, or ask the question.
  
  – Tom Au
  2 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


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  Yes. That is correct.
  
  – Matt
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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This was decades ago, but one of my professors told me, "I will accept work from you as "original" if you can produce it from memory without help." This would not include copy-pasting.

The reason for this test is to track your level of learning. If you could reproduce the table from memory, you would inevitably come up with some (perhaps small) difference from your friend's table. That would signify your learning the material.

You do not appear to have met that test.

share|improve this answer

answered 3 hours ago

Tom AuTom Au

4,98011123

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  This seems like a poor test for this scenario. Presumably OP now knows how to make tables in powerpoint (it is really quite easy, one or two clicks and its done). But you cant reasonably expect people to have memorized the data within their table. So I guess tables never count as original work? Or maybe with an exception for data, it does count as original work for OP? Neither seems right to me. We also have yet to get confirmation from OP that "copied his table" means literally copy/paste or a manual equilalent. It could mean that OP used the same row/column labels and style as his friend.
  
  – Matt
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Finally, your test seems to be based on what OP "could" do, but then draw conclusions based on what he did do. We dont know that OP cant make such a table on his own. Plagiarism isnt based on what people can do, but what they have done.
  
  – Matt
  2 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Matt: At this time, we don't know that the OP CAN reproduce this table from memory. We do know that he "copied." So the way for him to correct this is to "pull" the table that he submitted, and replace it with his own work, if it is not too late. And worst come to worst, maybe he'll learn something for next time.But if he had done it right the first time, there would be no need for him to worry about plagiarizing, or ask the question.
  
  – Tom Au
  2 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Yes. That is correct.
  
  – Matt
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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This was decades ago, but one of my professors told me, "I will accept work from you as "original" if you can produce it from memory without help." This would not include copy-pasting.

The reason for this test is to track your level of learning. If you could reproduce the table from memory, you would inevitably come up with some (perhaps small) difference from your friend's table. That would signify your learning the material.

You do not appear to have met that test.

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answered 3 hours ago

Tom AuTom Au

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