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Sums of entire surjective functions


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Suppose $(f_n)_n$ is a countable family of entire, surjective functions, each $f_n:mathbb{C}tomathbb{C}$. Can one always find complex scalars $(a_n)_n$, not all zero, such that $sum_{n=1}^{infty} a_n f_n$ is entire but not-surjective? In fact, I am interested in this question under the additional assumption that $(f_n)_n$ are not polynomials.










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    I'm not sure I understand the question. Are there some extra assumptions on the $f_n$ or on the $a_n$ ? For instance, assume that $f_1=-f_2$, then $a_1=a_2=1$, $a_n=0$, $ngeq 3$, will yield $sum a_nf_n=0$...
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    @M.Dus: I suppose OP asks whether one can always find such scalaras. I also guess that the sum is supposed to be entire, not surjective and non-constant.
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    @Mateusz Kwasnicki: this does not help. Suppose they are all polynomials. If the linear combination is not constant is must be surjective.
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    Maybe $(f_n)$ denotes an infinite sequence of functions?
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    @AlexandreEremenko I made some edits, I hope it is more clear now. Indeed, the question is if this is true for any such family.
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Suppose $(f_n)_n$ is a countable family of entire, surjective functions, each $f_n:mathbb{C}tomathbb{C}$. Can one always find complex scalars $(a_n)_n$, not all zero, such that $sum_{n=1}^{infty} a_n f_n$ is entire but not-surjective? In fact, I am interested in this question under the additional assumption that $(f_n)_n$ are not polynomials.










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    I'm not sure I understand the question. Are there some extra assumptions on the $f_n$ or on the $a_n$ ? For instance, assume that $f_1=-f_2$, then $a_1=a_2=1$, $a_n=0$, $ngeq 3$, will yield $sum a_nf_n=0$...
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    – M. Dus
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    @M.Dus: I suppose OP asks whether one can always find such scalaras. I also guess that the sum is supposed to be entire, not surjective and non-constant.
    $endgroup$
    – Mateusz Kwaśnicki
    6 hours ago










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    @Mateusz Kwasnicki: this does not help. Suppose they are all polynomials. If the linear combination is not constant is must be surjective.
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Eremenko
    6 hours ago






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    Maybe $(f_n)$ denotes an infinite sequence of functions?
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    – Nik Weaver
    6 hours ago










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    @AlexandreEremenko I made some edits, I hope it is more clear now. Indeed, the question is if this is true for any such family.
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Suppose $(f_n)_n$ is a countable family of entire, surjective functions, each $f_n:mathbb{C}tomathbb{C}$. Can one always find complex scalars $(a_n)_n$, not all zero, such that $sum_{n=1}^{infty} a_n f_n$ is entire but not-surjective? In fact, I am interested in this question under the additional assumption that $(f_n)_n$ are not polynomials.










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Suppose $(f_n)_n$ is a countable family of entire, surjective functions, each $f_n:mathbb{C}tomathbb{C}$. Can one always find complex scalars $(a_n)_n$, not all zero, such that $sum_{n=1}^{infty} a_n f_n$ is entire but not-surjective? In fact, I am interested in this question under the additional assumption that $(f_n)_n$ are not polynomials.







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  • $begingroup$
    I'm not sure I understand the question. Are there some extra assumptions on the $f_n$ or on the $a_n$ ? For instance, assume that $f_1=-f_2$, then $a_1=a_2=1$, $a_n=0$, $ngeq 3$, will yield $sum a_nf_n=0$...
    $endgroup$
    – M. Dus
    6 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @M.Dus: I suppose OP asks whether one can always find such scalaras. I also guess that the sum is supposed to be entire, not surjective and non-constant.
    $endgroup$
    – Mateusz Kwaśnicki
    6 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @Mateusz Kwasnicki: this does not help. Suppose they are all polynomials. If the linear combination is not constant is must be surjective.
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Eremenko
    6 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Maybe $(f_n)$ denotes an infinite sequence of functions?
    $endgroup$
    – Nik Weaver
    6 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @AlexandreEremenko I made some edits, I hope it is more clear now. Indeed, the question is if this is true for any such family.
    $endgroup$
    – user137377
    4 hours ago


















  • $begingroup$
    I'm not sure I understand the question. Are there some extra assumptions on the $f_n$ or on the $a_n$ ? For instance, assume that $f_1=-f_2$, then $a_1=a_2=1$, $a_n=0$, $ngeq 3$, will yield $sum a_nf_n=0$...
    $endgroup$
    – M. Dus
    6 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @M.Dus: I suppose OP asks whether one can always find such scalaras. I also guess that the sum is supposed to be entire, not surjective and non-constant.
    $endgroup$
    – Mateusz Kwaśnicki
    6 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @Mateusz Kwasnicki: this does not help. Suppose they are all polynomials. If the linear combination is not constant is must be surjective.
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Eremenko
    6 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Maybe $(f_n)$ denotes an infinite sequence of functions?
    $endgroup$
    – Nik Weaver
    6 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @AlexandreEremenko I made some edits, I hope it is more clear now. Indeed, the question is if this is true for any such family.
    $endgroup$
    – user137377
    4 hours ago
















$begingroup$
I'm not sure I understand the question. Are there some extra assumptions on the $f_n$ or on the $a_n$ ? For instance, assume that $f_1=-f_2$, then $a_1=a_2=1$, $a_n=0$, $ngeq 3$, will yield $sum a_nf_n=0$...
$endgroup$
– M. Dus
6 hours ago




$begingroup$
I'm not sure I understand the question. Are there some extra assumptions on the $f_n$ or on the $a_n$ ? For instance, assume that $f_1=-f_2$, then $a_1=a_2=1$, $a_n=0$, $ngeq 3$, will yield $sum a_nf_n=0$...
$endgroup$
– M. Dus
6 hours ago




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$begingroup$
@M.Dus: I suppose OP asks whether one can always find such scalaras. I also guess that the sum is supposed to be entire, not surjective and non-constant.
$endgroup$
– Mateusz Kwaśnicki
6 hours ago




$begingroup$
@M.Dus: I suppose OP asks whether one can always find such scalaras. I also guess that the sum is supposed to be entire, not surjective and non-constant.
$endgroup$
– Mateusz Kwaśnicki
6 hours ago












$begingroup$
@Mateusz Kwasnicki: this does not help. Suppose they are all polynomials. If the linear combination is not constant is must be surjective.
$endgroup$
– Alexandre Eremenko
6 hours ago




$begingroup$
@Mateusz Kwasnicki: this does not help. Suppose they are all polynomials. If the linear combination is not constant is must be surjective.
$endgroup$
– Alexandre Eremenko
6 hours ago




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$begingroup$
Maybe $(f_n)$ denotes an infinite sequence of functions?
$endgroup$
– Nik Weaver
6 hours ago




$begingroup$
Maybe $(f_n)$ denotes an infinite sequence of functions?
$endgroup$
– Nik Weaver
6 hours ago












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@AlexandreEremenko I made some edits, I hope it is more clear now. Indeed, the question is if this is true for any such family.
$endgroup$
– user137377
4 hours ago




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@AlexandreEremenko I made some edits, I hope it is more clear now. Indeed, the question is if this is true for any such family.
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One expects there to be no such $a_n$ in general, because the
"typical" entire functions is surjective (those that aren't are of the
special form $z mapsto c + exp g(z)$). An explicit example is
$f_n(z) = cos z/n$: any convergent linear combination $f = sum_n a_n f_n$
is of order $1$, so if $f$ is not surjective then $g$ is a polynomial
of degree at most $1$; but $f$ is even, so must be constant,
from which it soon follows that $a_n=0$ for every $n$.






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    The answer is no. If something does not hold for polynomials, don't expect that it will hold for entire functions:-)



    For example, all non-constant functions of order less than $1/2$ are surjective.
    This follows from an old theorem of Wiman that for such function $f$ there exists
    a sequence $r_ktoinfty$ such that $min_{|z|=r_k}|f(z)|toinfty$ as $kto infty.$
    And of course linear combinations of functions of order less than $1/2$ are of order less
    than $1/2$.






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      One expects there to be no such $a_n$ in general, because the
      "typical" entire functions is surjective (those that aren't are of the
      special form $z mapsto c + exp g(z)$). An explicit example is
      $f_n(z) = cos z/n$: any convergent linear combination $f = sum_n a_n f_n$
      is of order $1$, so if $f$ is not surjective then $g$ is a polynomial
      of degree at most $1$; but $f$ is even, so must be constant,
      from which it soon follows that $a_n=0$ for every $n$.






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        One expects there to be no such $a_n$ in general, because the
        "typical" entire functions is surjective (those that aren't are of the
        special form $z mapsto c + exp g(z)$). An explicit example is
        $f_n(z) = cos z/n$: any convergent linear combination $f = sum_n a_n f_n$
        is of order $1$, so if $f$ is not surjective then $g$ is a polynomial
        of degree at most $1$; but $f$ is even, so must be constant,
        from which it soon follows that $a_n=0$ for every $n$.






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          $begingroup$

          One expects there to be no such $a_n$ in general, because the
          "typical" entire functions is surjective (those that aren't are of the
          special form $z mapsto c + exp g(z)$). An explicit example is
          $f_n(z) = cos z/n$: any convergent linear combination $f = sum_n a_n f_n$
          is of order $1$, so if $f$ is not surjective then $g$ is a polynomial
          of degree at most $1$; but $f$ is even, so must be constant,
          from which it soon follows that $a_n=0$ for every $n$.






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          One expects there to be no such $a_n$ in general, because the
          "typical" entire functions is surjective (those that aren't are of the
          special form $z mapsto c + exp g(z)$). An explicit example is
          $f_n(z) = cos z/n$: any convergent linear combination $f = sum_n a_n f_n$
          is of order $1$, so if $f$ is not surjective then $g$ is a polynomial
          of degree at most $1$; but $f$ is even, so must be constant,
          from which it soon follows that $a_n=0$ for every $n$.







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              The answer is no. If something does not hold for polynomials, don't expect that it will hold for entire functions:-)



              For example, all non-constant functions of order less than $1/2$ are surjective.
              This follows from an old theorem of Wiman that for such function $f$ there exists
              a sequence $r_ktoinfty$ such that $min_{|z|=r_k}|f(z)|toinfty$ as $kto infty.$
              And of course linear combinations of functions of order less than $1/2$ are of order less
              than $1/2$.






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                The answer is no. If something does not hold for polynomials, don't expect that it will hold for entire functions:-)



                For example, all non-constant functions of order less than $1/2$ are surjective.
                This follows from an old theorem of Wiman that for such function $f$ there exists
                a sequence $r_ktoinfty$ such that $min_{|z|=r_k}|f(z)|toinfty$ as $kto infty.$
                And of course linear combinations of functions of order less than $1/2$ are of order less
                than $1/2$.






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                  The answer is no. If something does not hold for polynomials, don't expect that it will hold for entire functions:-)



                  For example, all non-constant functions of order less than $1/2$ are surjective.
                  This follows from an old theorem of Wiman that for such function $f$ there exists
                  a sequence $r_ktoinfty$ such that $min_{|z|=r_k}|f(z)|toinfty$ as $kto infty.$
                  And of course linear combinations of functions of order less than $1/2$ are of order less
                  than $1/2$.






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                  The answer is no. If something does not hold for polynomials, don't expect that it will hold for entire functions:-)



                  For example, all non-constant functions of order less than $1/2$ are surjective.
                  This follows from an old theorem of Wiman that for such function $f$ there exists
                  a sequence $r_ktoinfty$ such that $min_{|z|=r_k}|f(z)|toinfty$ as $kto infty.$
                  And of course linear combinations of functions of order less than $1/2$ are of order less
                  than $1/2$.







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