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Languages that we cannot (dis)prove to be Context-Free

Languages that we cannot (dis)prove to be Context-Free

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I'm looking for languages which are "probably not Context-Free" but we are not able to (dis)prove it using known standard techniques.

Is there a recent survey on the subject or an open problem section from a recent conference ?

Probably there are not many languages which are not known to be CF, so if you know one you can also post it as an answer.

The examples I found are:

• the well known language of Primitive words $Q = { w mid w neq u^i (|u| > 1) }$ (there's a whole nice recent book on it: Context-Free Languages and Primitive Words)


• the Base-k representations of the co-domain of a polynomial (see question "Base-k representations of the co-domain of a polynomial - is it context-free?" on cstheory)

Note: as showed by Aryeh in his answer you can build a whole class of such languages if you "link" a language to an unknown conjecture about the (non)finiteness or (non)emptiness of some sets (e.g. $L_{Goldbach} = { 1^{2n} mid 2n$ cannot be expressed as a sum of two primes$}$). I'm not quite interested in such examples.

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I'm looking for languages which are "probably not Context-Free" but we are not able to (dis)prove it using known standard techniques.

Is there a recent survey on the subject or an open problem section from a recent conference ?

Probably there are not many languages which are not known to be CF, so if you know one you can also post it as an answer.

The examples I found are:

• the well known language of Primitive words $Q = { w mid w neq u^i (|u| > 1) }$ (there's a whole nice recent book on it: Context-Free Languages and Primitive Words)


• the Base-k representations of the co-domain of a polynomial (see question "Base-k representations of the co-domain of a polynomial - is it context-free?" on cstheory)

Note: as showed by Aryeh in his answer you can build a whole class of such languages if you "link" a language to an unknown conjecture about the (non)finiteness or (non)emptiness of some sets (e.g. $L_{Goldbach} = { 1^{2n} mid 2n$ cannot be expressed as a sum of two primes$}$). I'm not quite interested in such examples.

reference-request big-list context-free

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I'm looking for languages which are "probably not Context-Free" but we are not able to (dis)prove it using known standard techniques.

Is there a recent survey on the subject or an open problem section from a recent conference ?

Probably there are not many languages which are not known to be CF, so if you know one you can also post it as an answer.

The examples I found are:

• the well known language of Primitive words $Q = { w mid w neq u^i (|u| > 1) }$ (there's a whole nice recent book on it: Context-Free Languages and Primitive Words)


• the Base-k representations of the co-domain of a polynomial (see question "Base-k representations of the co-domain of a polynomial - is it context-free?" on cstheory)

Note: as showed by Aryeh in his answer you can build a whole class of such languages if you "link" a language to an unknown conjecture about the (non)finiteness or (non)emptiness of some sets (e.g. $L_{Goldbach} = { 1^{2n} mid 2n$ cannot be expressed as a sum of two primes$}$). I'm not quite interested in such examples.

reference-request big-list context-free

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How about the language $L_{TP}$ of twin primes? I.e., all pairs of natural numbers $(p,p')$ (represented, say, in unary), such that $p,p'$ are both prime and $p'=p+2$? If twin primes conjecture is true, then $L_{TP}$ is not context-free; otherwise, it's finite.

Edit: Let me give a quick proof sketch that the twin primes conjecture implies that $L_{TP}$ is not context-free. Associate to any language $L$ its length sequence $0le a_1le a_2leldots$, where the integer $ell$ appears in the sequence iff there is a word of length $ell$ in $L$. It is a consequence of the pumping lemma(s) that for $L$ that are regular or CFL, the length sequence satisfies the bounded differences property: there is an $R>0$ such that $a_{n+1}-a_nle R$ for all $n$. It is an easy and well-known fact in number theory that the primes do not have bounded differences. Finally, any infinite subsequence of a sequence violating the bounded differences property itself must violate it.

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  Nice, thanks! But I'm not quite interested in languages that are linked to unknown conjectures about the (non)finiteness of some sets. BTW if those conjectures are true the resulting language is also regular :-)
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  I mean if (dis)proving a conjecture, results in a finite set. In your case - twin primes - if the conjecture is false.
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  If there are infinitely many twin primes, how do you show that $L_{TP}$ is not context-free?
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  Oh, sorry, I didn’t notice you represent the numbers in unary. Then it is clear. (I believe that proving this for binary representation would require a considerable progress on the twin primes conjecture.)
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Another good one is the complement of the set $S$ of contiguous subwords (aka "factors") of the Thue-Morse sequence ${bf t} = 0110100110010110 cdots $. To give some context, Jean Berstel proved that the complement of the set $T$ of prefixes of the Thue-Morse word is context-free (and actually something more general than that). But the corresponding result for subwords is still open.

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  Great, thanks! If you saw it stated somewhere (perhaps in one of your many papers on the Thue-Morse sequence? ;-) you can add the reference (even if stated in the iterated morphism form).
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How about the language $L_{TP}$ of twin primes? I.e., all pairs of natural numbers $(p,p')$ (represented, say, in unary), such that $p,p'$ are both prime and $p'=p+2$? If twin primes conjecture is true, then $L_{TP}$ is not context-free; otherwise, it's finite.

Edit: Let me give a quick proof sketch that the twin primes conjecture implies that $L_{TP}$ is not context-free. Associate to any language $L$ its length sequence $0le a_1le a_2leldots$, where the integer $ell$ appears in the sequence iff there is a word of length $ell$ in $L$. It is a consequence of the pumping lemma(s) that for $L$ that are regular or CFL, the length sequence satisfies the bounded differences property: there is an $R>0$ such that $a_{n+1}-a_nle R$ for all $n$. It is an easy and well-known fact in number theory that the primes do not have bounded differences. Finally, any infinite subsequence of a sequence violating the bounded differences property itself must violate it.

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  Nice, thanks! But I'm not quite interested in languages that are linked to unknown conjectures about the (non)finiteness of some sets. BTW if those conjectures are true the resulting language is also regular :-)
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  If there are infinitely many twin primes, how do you see that $L_{TP}$ is regular?
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  I mean if (dis)proving a conjecture, results in a finite set. In your case - twin primes - if the conjecture is false.
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  If there are infinitely many twin primes, how do you show that $L_{TP}$ is not context-free?
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  Oh, sorry, I didn’t notice you represent the numbers in unary. Then it is clear. (I believe that proving this for binary representation would require a considerable progress on the twin primes conjecture.)
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How about the language $L_{TP}$ of twin primes? I.e., all pairs of natural numbers $(p,p')$ (represented, say, in unary), such that $p,p'$ are both prime and $p'=p+2$? If twin primes conjecture is true, then $L_{TP}$ is not context-free; otherwise, it's finite.

Edit: Let me give a quick proof sketch that the twin primes conjecture implies that $L_{TP}$ is not context-free. Associate to any language $L$ its length sequence $0le a_1le a_2leldots$, where the integer $ell$ appears in the sequence iff there is a word of length $ell$ in $L$. It is a consequence of the pumping lemma(s) that for $L$ that are regular or CFL, the length sequence satisfies the bounded differences property: there is an $R>0$ such that $a_{n+1}-a_nle R$ for all $n$. It is an easy and well-known fact in number theory that the primes do not have bounded differences. Finally, any infinite subsequence of a sequence violating the bounded differences property itself must violate it.

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  Nice, thanks! But I'm not quite interested in languages that are linked to unknown conjectures about the (non)finiteness of some sets. BTW if those conjectures are true the resulting language is also regular :-)
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  If there are infinitely many twin primes, how do you see that $L_{TP}$ is regular?
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  8 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  I mean if (dis)proving a conjecture, results in a finite set. In your case - twin primes - if the conjecture is false.
  $endgroup$
  – Marzio De Biasi
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  If there are infinitely many twin primes, how do you show that $L_{TP}$ is not context-free?
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  – Emil Jeřábek
  7 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  Oh, sorry, I didn’t notice you represent the numbers in unary. Then it is clear. (I believe that proving this for binary representation would require a considerable progress on the twin primes conjecture.)
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How about the language $L_{TP}$ of twin primes? I.e., all pairs of natural numbers $(p,p')$ (represented, say, in unary), such that $p,p'$ are both prime and $p'=p+2$? If twin primes conjecture is true, then $L_{TP}$ is not context-free; otherwise, it's finite.

Edit: Let me give a quick proof sketch that the twin primes conjecture implies that $L_{TP}$ is not context-free. Associate to any language $L$ its length sequence $0le a_1le a_2leldots$, where the integer $ell$ appears in the sequence iff there is a word of length $ell$ in $L$. It is a consequence of the pumping lemma(s) that for $L$ that are regular or CFL, the length sequence satisfies the bounded differences property: there is an $R>0$ such that $a_{n+1}-a_nle R$ for all $n$. It is an easy and well-known fact in number theory that the primes do not have bounded differences. Finally, any infinite subsequence of a sequence violating the bounded differences property itself must violate it.

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Another good one is the complement of the set $S$ of contiguous subwords (aka "factors") of the Thue-Morse sequence ${bf t} = 0110100110010110 cdots $. To give some context, Jean Berstel proved that the complement of the set $T$ of prefixes of the Thue-Morse word is context-free (and actually something more general than that). But the corresponding result for subwords is still open.

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  Great, thanks! If you saw it stated somewhere (perhaps in one of your many papers on the Thue-Morse sequence? ;-) you can add the reference (even if stated in the iterated morphism form).
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Another good one is the complement of the set $S$ of contiguous subwords (aka "factors") of the Thue-Morse sequence ${bf t} = 0110100110010110 cdots $. To give some context, Jean Berstel proved that the complement of the set $T$ of prefixes of the Thue-Morse word is context-free (and actually something more general than that). But the corresponding result for subwords is still open.

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answered 4 hours ago

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  Great, thanks! If you saw it stated somewhere (perhaps in one of your many papers on the Thue-Morse sequence? ;-) you can add the reference (even if stated in the iterated morphism form).
  $endgroup$
  – Marzio De Biasi
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

$begingroup$

Another good one is the complement of the set $S$ of contiguous subwords (aka "factors") of the Thue-Morse sequence ${bf t} = 0110100110010110 cdots $. To give some context, Jean Berstel proved that the complement of the set $T$ of prefixes of the Thue-Morse word is context-free (and actually something more general than that). But the corresponding result for subwords is still open.

share|cite|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

Jeffrey ShallitJeffrey Shallit

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answered 4 hours ago

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