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  • My bride is pregnant.

  • She lives 1500 km away from me, in another country, in a low-developed region where the public transport is slow.

  • I did not talk with her for 3 days long. It was my mistake. She became shocked and now she wants to abort the child.

  • I am currently on a train, traveling to her.

  • Tomorrow morning I should start the work, as usual. I won't be able to do it. (It is now Sunday evening there).

  • Very surely, I won't be able to work on Monday and also not on Tuesday.


It is a small company in Germany. I've worked here for some years, longer than most employees, but there is no guarantee that I won't lose my job for that. The company seems tolerant above the average for such events, but their patience surely has a limit. And I feel I am near this limit now.



Being in the IT department, I could work also remotely, even on different trains. But it is not the custom of the company, and I need a boss to change that.



How should I maximize my chance not to lose my job and to lose the least possible respect by my bosses?



Would it be better if I explain this situation? This personal problem probably looks quite different with the eyes of my boss.










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    "And feel I near this limit now" why do you feel that way? It seems this is a one-time occurrence for you, what else happened that you think they reached a "limit"?

    – nvoigt
    21 hours ago






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    (With a reason, communicated properly) Why not showing up at work will cause you lose your job? That's what extreme.

    – Sourav Ghosh
    21 hours ago








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    Are you a regular employee or a contractor? How much of the situation is already known to your boss? Surely they know you are married, do they know your wife is pregnant?

    – nvoigt
    21 hours ago






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    I suspect you aren't using "Bride" quite correctly. "Bride" usually refers to a woman who is currently in the process of getting married. "Wife" is a woman who is married. "Engaged" is someone who is going to get married. "My Wife" refers to someone who is married to you; "My Bride" is someone you are currently getting married to. (the exact period over which you are "getting married" as opposed to "being married" is fuzzy, admittedly)

    – Yakk
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    I think you need to talk about your relationship with someone. Not calling for 3 days = threats to abort a baby is not a proportional response which suggests either you aren't telling us everything, or she has more going on that she isn't telling you.

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  • My bride is pregnant.

  • She lives 1500 km away from me, in another country, in a low-developed region where the public transport is slow.

  • I did not talk with her for 3 days long. It was my mistake. She became shocked and now she wants to abort the child.

  • I am currently on a train, traveling to her.

  • Tomorrow morning I should start the work, as usual. I won't be able to do it. (It is now Sunday evening there).

  • Very surely, I won't be able to work on Monday and also not on Tuesday.


It is a small company in Germany. I've worked here for some years, longer than most employees, but there is no guarantee that I won't lose my job for that. The company seems tolerant above the average for such events, but their patience surely has a limit. And I feel I am near this limit now.



Being in the IT department, I could work also remotely, even on different trains. But it is not the custom of the company, and I need a boss to change that.



How should I maximize my chance not to lose my job and to lose the least possible respect by my bosses?



Would it be better if I explain this situation? This personal problem probably looks quite different with the eyes of my boss.










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    "And feel I near this limit now" why do you feel that way? It seems this is a one-time occurrence for you, what else happened that you think they reached a "limit"?

    – nvoigt
    21 hours ago






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    (With a reason, communicated properly) Why not showing up at work will cause you lose your job? That's what extreme.

    – Sourav Ghosh
    21 hours ago








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    Are you a regular employee or a contractor? How much of the situation is already known to your boss? Surely they know you are married, do they know your wife is pregnant?

    – nvoigt
    21 hours ago






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    I suspect you aren't using "Bride" quite correctly. "Bride" usually refers to a woman who is currently in the process of getting married. "Wife" is a woman who is married. "Engaged" is someone who is going to get married. "My Wife" refers to someone who is married to you; "My Bride" is someone you are currently getting married to. (the exact period over which you are "getting married" as opposed to "being married" is fuzzy, admittedly)

    – Yakk
    12 hours ago








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    I think you need to talk about your relationship with someone. Not calling for 3 days = threats to abort a baby is not a proportional response which suggests either you aren't telling us everything, or she has more going on that she isn't telling you.

    – Tim B
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  • My bride is pregnant.

  • She lives 1500 km away from me, in another country, in a low-developed region where the public transport is slow.

  • I did not talk with her for 3 days long. It was my mistake. She became shocked and now she wants to abort the child.

  • I am currently on a train, traveling to her.

  • Tomorrow morning I should start the work, as usual. I won't be able to do it. (It is now Sunday evening there).

  • Very surely, I won't be able to work on Monday and also not on Tuesday.


It is a small company in Germany. I've worked here for some years, longer than most employees, but there is no guarantee that I won't lose my job for that. The company seems tolerant above the average for such events, but their patience surely has a limit. And I feel I am near this limit now.



Being in the IT department, I could work also remotely, even on different trains. But it is not the custom of the company, and I need a boss to change that.



How should I maximize my chance not to lose my job and to lose the least possible respect by my bosses?



Would it be better if I explain this situation? This personal problem probably looks quite different with the eyes of my boss.










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  • My bride is pregnant.

  • She lives 1500 km away from me, in another country, in a low-developed region where the public transport is slow.

  • I did not talk with her for 3 days long. It was my mistake. She became shocked and now she wants to abort the child.

  • I am currently on a train, traveling to her.

  • Tomorrow morning I should start the work, as usual. I won't be able to do it. (It is now Sunday evening there).

  • Very surely, I won't be able to work on Monday and also not on Tuesday.


It is a small company in Germany. I've worked here for some years, longer than most employees, but there is no guarantee that I won't lose my job for that. The company seems tolerant above the average for such events, but their patience surely has a limit. And I feel I am near this limit now.



Being in the IT department, I could work also remotely, even on different trains. But it is not the custom of the company, and I need a boss to change that.



How should I maximize my chance not to lose my job and to lose the least possible respect by my bosses?



Would it be better if I explain this situation? This personal problem probably looks quite different with the eyes of my boss.







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  • 58





    "And feel I near this limit now" why do you feel that way? It seems this is a one-time occurrence for you, what else happened that you think they reached a "limit"?

    – nvoigt
    21 hours ago






  • 3





    (With a reason, communicated properly) Why not showing up at work will cause you lose your job? That's what extreme.

    – Sourav Ghosh
    21 hours ago








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    Are you a regular employee or a contractor? How much of the situation is already known to your boss? Surely they know you are married, do they know your wife is pregnant?

    – nvoigt
    21 hours ago






  • 7





    I suspect you aren't using "Bride" quite correctly. "Bride" usually refers to a woman who is currently in the process of getting married. "Wife" is a woman who is married. "Engaged" is someone who is going to get married. "My Wife" refers to someone who is married to you; "My Bride" is someone you are currently getting married to. (the exact period over which you are "getting married" as opposed to "being married" is fuzzy, admittedly)

    – Yakk
    12 hours ago








  • 11





    I think you need to talk about your relationship with someone. Not calling for 3 days = threats to abort a baby is not a proportional response which suggests either you aren't telling us everything, or she has more going on that she isn't telling you.

    – Tim B
    7 hours ago














  • 58





    "And feel I near this limit now" why do you feel that way? It seems this is a one-time occurrence for you, what else happened that you think they reached a "limit"?

    – nvoigt
    21 hours ago






  • 3





    (With a reason, communicated properly) Why not showing up at work will cause you lose your job? That's what extreme.

    – Sourav Ghosh
    21 hours ago








  • 1





    Are you a regular employee or a contractor? How much of the situation is already known to your boss? Surely they know you are married, do they know your wife is pregnant?

    – nvoigt
    21 hours ago






  • 7





    I suspect you aren't using "Bride" quite correctly. "Bride" usually refers to a woman who is currently in the process of getting married. "Wife" is a woman who is married. "Engaged" is someone who is going to get married. "My Wife" refers to someone who is married to you; "My Bride" is someone you are currently getting married to. (the exact period over which you are "getting married" as opposed to "being married" is fuzzy, admittedly)

    – Yakk
    12 hours ago








  • 11





    I think you need to talk about your relationship with someone. Not calling for 3 days = threats to abort a baby is not a proportional response which suggests either you aren't telling us everything, or she has more going on that she isn't telling you.

    – Tim B
    7 hours ago








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"And feel I near this limit now" why do you feel that way? It seems this is a one-time occurrence for you, what else happened that you think they reached a "limit"?

– nvoigt
21 hours ago





"And feel I near this limit now" why do you feel that way? It seems this is a one-time occurrence for you, what else happened that you think they reached a "limit"?

– nvoigt
21 hours ago




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(With a reason, communicated properly) Why not showing up at work will cause you lose your job? That's what extreme.

– Sourav Ghosh
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(With a reason, communicated properly) Why not showing up at work will cause you lose your job? That's what extreme.

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Are you a regular employee or a contractor? How much of the situation is already known to your boss? Surely they know you are married, do they know your wife is pregnant?

– nvoigt
21 hours ago





Are you a regular employee or a contractor? How much of the situation is already known to your boss? Surely they know you are married, do they know your wife is pregnant?

– nvoigt
21 hours ago




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I suspect you aren't using "Bride" quite correctly. "Bride" usually refers to a woman who is currently in the process of getting married. "Wife" is a woman who is married. "Engaged" is someone who is going to get married. "My Wife" refers to someone who is married to you; "My Bride" is someone you are currently getting married to. (the exact period over which you are "getting married" as opposed to "being married" is fuzzy, admittedly)

– Yakk
12 hours ago







I suspect you aren't using "Bride" quite correctly. "Bride" usually refers to a woman who is currently in the process of getting married. "Wife" is a woman who is married. "Engaged" is someone who is going to get married. "My Wife" refers to someone who is married to you; "My Bride" is someone you are currently getting married to. (the exact period over which you are "getting married" as opposed to "being married" is fuzzy, admittedly)

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I think you need to talk about your relationship with someone. Not calling for 3 days = threats to abort a baby is not a proportional response which suggests either you aren't telling us everything, or she has more going on that she isn't telling you.

– Tim B
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I think you need to talk about your relationship with someone. Not calling for 3 days = threats to abort a baby is not a proportional response which suggests either you aren't telling us everything, or she has more going on that she isn't telling you.

– Tim B
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Call as soon as you can get through.



Tell your boss that a family emergency came up and you won't be there Monday or Tuesday.



Good luck.






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    @GraySheep - when I said "as soon as you can get through", I meant get through to work.

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    Realistically, it's not going to make much difference to your boss if he finds out late on Sunday evening or early on Monday morning. In his shoes I'd prefer not to have my sleep interrupted though.

    – Matthew Barber
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    I think a text message and/or e-mail instead of calling would be better outside of working hours. As long as this doesn’t happen regularly I’d expect most managers to be tolerant and emphatic.

    – Michael
    18 hours ago






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    "Außergewöhnliche und unaufschiebbare Familienangelegenheit" for neutral tone that also conveys the seriousness of the situation

    – Magisch
    17 hours ago






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    @IQV This isn't a holiday, it's a medical emergency. I'm in the UK not Germany, but any intelligent employer will accept that in that situation the OP needs some time to make a plan of how to deal with the situation from now on. The OP obviously can't be in two places at once, and apparently regular travel is going to be prohibitively slow and/or expensive.

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  • contact your manager/boss by email/text. Tell him that there is a personal situation which requires your presence with your bride


  • call him/her in the morning



Don't be too specific on the details. If you don't ask for such things very often, then I would hope for the best.






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    I doubt "don't be too specific on the details" is a good recommendation. I would say the opposite: be open about the situation.

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    The boss will almost certainly ask the question "when will you be back at work." Think about the answer to that before you start the phone call!

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  • @TeroLahtinen Giving to many details can make it worse, unless you are absolutely certain that the boss will understand the situation. In the situation of OP the boss could argue that it's not an medical emergency and that it doesn't requires immediate action so he doesn't agree with the absence from work. Then what? By not giving details he can't dismiss your situation.

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    @kapex I see your point, but if the boss is likely not to understand the situation, I think she would also not understand the "Family emergency. Period." -approach any better.

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    There is definitely a lot of options between giving the boss every detail and "Family emergency. Period." Something like "I had a family emergency come up with my fiance so I will be out of the office until at least Wednesday and possibly not until Friday", which give a little more detail, is much more personable, but doesn't go into the fine details of what is going on for the OP

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The answers so far address the personal angle. Definitely call and explain (leaving out whatever personal details you wish).



From a legal perspective, google "Abwesenheit aus wichtigem persönlichen Grund" or similar phrases. Sadly, I'm in Austria right now and Google forces links related to Austrian law on me, but I remember from my time in Germany that this exists in German employee law as well.



IANAL but I have legal training and from my experience you should be legally in the clear. Another common use for this rule is people staying at home if their child is sick and the other parent can't take care of it (e.g. both parents are working).



Definitely do not falsely claim that you are sick. That would be grounds for an immediate termination if your lie is uncovered.






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    I live and work in Germany, and have been both boss and employee.



    I would say that the best way to proceed depends on your boss. Every country is like this, but there is certainly still some xenophobia in Germany.



    If your boss is friendly towards foreigners, then I would give him full disclosure. Tell him exactly what is going on.



    If your boss is generally somebody that looks down on foreigners, then I would give him/her as little information as possible. Giving him information, such as the fact that you have a bride in another country will just fuel his/her fire, and give him more reason to dislike the situation. In this case, just say that you have an extremely important life or death family matter that must be dealt with immediately. In this case, we mean life or death of the baby, but do not tell the boss that. If he presses for details, I would just say that, "I would prefer not to discuss it." No respectable person would press you for more details. If he forces you to give a valid excuse, then I would tell him that you would be glad to talk to HR about the situation. I can't see how a boss needs to know about your personal situation.






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      Not sure this is relevant. Wife is living 1500km away, but that doesn't necessarily imply that OP is not German. In any case, he didn't mention any concern about possible xenophobia from his boss.

      – dim
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      You are right. I just assumed this to be the case.

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      18 hours ago






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      In any case, his hesitance toward just telling his boss seems to imply to me that he thinks that his boss will not take this well

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      Then, again: the employee might still have Ukrain roots, be a russion speaker or whatever. German xenophobs recently came up with the word Passdeutscher meaning soemone is german because their passport says so, Not because of their bloodline/origin.

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    • @BernhardDöbler Ah! Like the Swiss Papierschweizer

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    Already a bit late, but at the companies where I have worked this would be handled by calling the immediate superior and asking for a day off or two (Gleitzeit/Urlaub) because of a family emergency. HR and higher management would not even know that something unusual happened. However, if your company is very small, things might work differently.



    Many German employees can also take sick leave for up to three days without seeing the doctor. But I would not recommend that in this case, as employers take that very seriously and some coworkers do not really like that either.



    Even if your employer thinks that "troublesome girlfriend" is not a valid excuse for missing work, you might still just get a Abmahnung (kind of a last warning) instead of firing you. But that obviously depends a lot on your boss.



    P.S. a short google search suggests that an Abmahnung is indeed mandatory before firing someone for missing work. I any case, I would still strongly suggest to try to solve this without getting an Abmahnung.






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    • Note that the three sick days count calendar days, so that only allows him Monday.

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    • No. Three calendar days means that if he gets sick on Friday, he has to see the doctor on Monday. If he gets sick on Monday, he has to see the doctor on Thursday. But as said, this is not what I would recommend anyway.

      – Jan
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      "Many German employees can also take sick leave for up to three days without seeing the doctor." Faking an illness can be grounds for immediate termination (Fristlose Kuendigung), so yeah that sounds like a less than brilliant plan indeed.

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    Call as soon as you can get through.



    Tell your boss that a family emergency came up and you won't be there Monday or Tuesday.



    Good luck.






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      @GraySheep - when I said "as soon as you can get through", I meant get through to work.

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      Realistically, it's not going to make much difference to your boss if he finds out late on Sunday evening or early on Monday morning. In his shoes I'd prefer not to have my sleep interrupted though.

      – Matthew Barber
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      I think a text message and/or e-mail instead of calling would be better outside of working hours. As long as this doesn’t happen regularly I’d expect most managers to be tolerant and emphatic.

      – Michael
      18 hours ago






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      "Außergewöhnliche und unaufschiebbare Familienangelegenheit" for neutral tone that also conveys the seriousness of the situation

      – Magisch
      17 hours ago






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      @IQV This isn't a holiday, it's a medical emergency. I'm in the UK not Germany, but any intelligent employer will accept that in that situation the OP needs some time to make a plan of how to deal with the situation from now on. The OP obviously can't be in two places at once, and apparently regular travel is going to be prohibitively slow and/or expensive.

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    How to maximize my chance to not lose my job and to lose the least
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    Call as soon as you can get through.



    Tell your boss that a family emergency came up and you won't be there Monday or Tuesday.



    Good luck.






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      @GraySheep - when I said "as soon as you can get through", I meant get through to work.

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      Realistically, it's not going to make much difference to your boss if he finds out late on Sunday evening or early on Monday morning. In his shoes I'd prefer not to have my sleep interrupted though.

      – Matthew Barber
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      I think a text message and/or e-mail instead of calling would be better outside of working hours. As long as this doesn’t happen regularly I’d expect most managers to be tolerant and emphatic.

      – Michael
      18 hours ago






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      "Außergewöhnliche und unaufschiebbare Familienangelegenheit" for neutral tone that also conveys the seriousness of the situation

      – Magisch
      17 hours ago






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      @IQV This isn't a holiday, it's a medical emergency. I'm in the UK not Germany, but any intelligent employer will accept that in that situation the OP needs some time to make a plan of how to deal with the situation from now on. The OP obviously can't be in two places at once, and apparently regular travel is going to be prohibitively slow and/or expensive.

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    Call as soon as you can get through.



    Tell your boss that a family emergency came up and you won't be there Monday or Tuesday.



    Good luck.






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    How to maximize my chance to not lose my job and to lose the least
    possible respect by my bosses?




    Call as soon as you can get through.



    Tell your boss that a family emergency came up and you won't be there Monday or Tuesday.



    Good luck.







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      @GraySheep - when I said "as soon as you can get through", I meant get through to work.

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      Realistically, it's not going to make much difference to your boss if he finds out late on Sunday evening or early on Monday morning. In his shoes I'd prefer not to have my sleep interrupted though.

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      I think a text message and/or e-mail instead of calling would be better outside of working hours. As long as this doesn’t happen regularly I’d expect most managers to be tolerant and emphatic.

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      "Außergewöhnliche und unaufschiebbare Familienangelegenheit" for neutral tone that also conveys the seriousness of the situation

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      @IQV This isn't a holiday, it's a medical emergency. I'm in the UK not Germany, but any intelligent employer will accept that in that situation the OP needs some time to make a plan of how to deal with the situation from now on. The OP obviously can't be in two places at once, and apparently regular travel is going to be prohibitively slow and/or expensive.

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      @GraySheep - when I said "as soon as you can get through", I meant get through to work.

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      Realistically, it's not going to make much difference to your boss if he finds out late on Sunday evening or early on Monday morning. In his shoes I'd prefer not to have my sleep interrupted though.

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      I think a text message and/or e-mail instead of calling would be better outside of working hours. As long as this doesn’t happen regularly I’d expect most managers to be tolerant and emphatic.

      – Michael
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      "Außergewöhnliche und unaufschiebbare Familienangelegenheit" for neutral tone that also conveys the seriousness of the situation

      – Magisch
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      @IQV This isn't a holiday, it's a medical emergency. I'm in the UK not Germany, but any intelligent employer will accept that in that situation the OP needs some time to make a plan of how to deal with the situation from now on. The OP obviously can't be in two places at once, and apparently regular travel is going to be prohibitively slow and/or expensive.

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    @GraySheep - when I said "as soon as you can get through", I meant get through to work.

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    @GraySheep - when I said "as soon as you can get through", I meant get through to work.

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    Realistically, it's not going to make much difference to your boss if he finds out late on Sunday evening or early on Monday morning. In his shoes I'd prefer not to have my sleep interrupted though.

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    Realistically, it's not going to make much difference to your boss if he finds out late on Sunday evening or early on Monday morning. In his shoes I'd prefer not to have my sleep interrupted though.

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    I think a text message and/or e-mail instead of calling would be better outside of working hours. As long as this doesn’t happen regularly I’d expect most managers to be tolerant and emphatic.

    – Michael
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    I think a text message and/or e-mail instead of calling would be better outside of working hours. As long as this doesn’t happen regularly I’d expect most managers to be tolerant and emphatic.

    – Michael
    18 hours ago




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    "Außergewöhnliche und unaufschiebbare Familienangelegenheit" for neutral tone that also conveys the seriousness of the situation

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    "Außergewöhnliche und unaufschiebbare Familienangelegenheit" for neutral tone that also conveys the seriousness of the situation

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    @IQV This isn't a holiday, it's a medical emergency. I'm in the UK not Germany, but any intelligent employer will accept that in that situation the OP needs some time to make a plan of how to deal with the situation from now on. The OP obviously can't be in two places at once, and apparently regular travel is going to be prohibitively slow and/or expensive.

    – alephzero
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    @IQV This isn't a holiday, it's a medical emergency. I'm in the UK not Germany, but any intelligent employer will accept that in that situation the OP needs some time to make a plan of how to deal with the situation from now on. The OP obviously can't be in two places at once, and apparently regular travel is going to be prohibitively slow and/or expensive.

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    • contact your manager/boss by email/text. Tell him that there is a personal situation which requires your presence with your bride


    • call him/her in the morning



    Don't be too specific on the details. If you don't ask for such things very often, then I would hope for the best.






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      I doubt "don't be too specific on the details" is a good recommendation. I would say the opposite: be open about the situation.

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      The boss will almost certainly ask the question "when will you be back at work." Think about the answer to that before you start the phone call!

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    • @TeroLahtinen Giving to many details can make it worse, unless you are absolutely certain that the boss will understand the situation. In the situation of OP the boss could argue that it's not an medical emergency and that it doesn't requires immediate action so he doesn't agree with the absence from work. Then what? By not giving details he can't dismiss your situation.

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      @kapex I see your point, but if the boss is likely not to understand the situation, I think she would also not understand the "Family emergency. Period." -approach any better.

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      There is definitely a lot of options between giving the boss every detail and "Family emergency. Period." Something like "I had a family emergency come up with my fiance so I will be out of the office until at least Wednesday and possibly not until Friday", which give a little more detail, is much more personable, but doesn't go into the fine details of what is going on for the OP

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    • contact your manager/boss by email/text. Tell him that there is a personal situation which requires your presence with your bride


    • call him/her in the morning



    Don't be too specific on the details. If you don't ask for such things very often, then I would hope for the best.






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      I doubt "don't be too specific on the details" is a good recommendation. I would say the opposite: be open about the situation.

      – Tero Lahtinen
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      The boss will almost certainly ask the question "when will you be back at work." Think about the answer to that before you start the phone call!

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    • @TeroLahtinen Giving to many details can make it worse, unless you are absolutely certain that the boss will understand the situation. In the situation of OP the boss could argue that it's not an medical emergency and that it doesn't requires immediate action so he doesn't agree with the absence from work. Then what? By not giving details he can't dismiss your situation.

      – kapex
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      @kapex I see your point, but if the boss is likely not to understand the situation, I think she would also not understand the "Family emergency. Period." -approach any better.

      – Tero Lahtinen
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      There is definitely a lot of options between giving the boss every detail and "Family emergency. Period." Something like "I had a family emergency come up with my fiance so I will be out of the office until at least Wednesday and possibly not until Friday", which give a little more detail, is much more personable, but doesn't go into the fine details of what is going on for the OP

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    • contact your manager/boss by email/text. Tell him that there is a personal situation which requires your presence with your bride


    • call him/her in the morning



    Don't be too specific on the details. If you don't ask for such things very often, then I would hope for the best.






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    • contact your manager/boss by email/text. Tell him that there is a personal situation which requires your presence with your bride


    • call him/her in the morning



    Don't be too specific on the details. If you don't ask for such things very often, then I would hope for the best.







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      I doubt "don't be too specific on the details" is a good recommendation. I would say the opposite: be open about the situation.

      – Tero Lahtinen
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      The boss will almost certainly ask the question "when will you be back at work." Think about the answer to that before you start the phone call!

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    • @TeroLahtinen Giving to many details can make it worse, unless you are absolutely certain that the boss will understand the situation. In the situation of OP the boss could argue that it's not an medical emergency and that it doesn't requires immediate action so he doesn't agree with the absence from work. Then what? By not giving details he can't dismiss your situation.

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      @kapex I see your point, but if the boss is likely not to understand the situation, I think she would also not understand the "Family emergency. Period." -approach any better.

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      There is definitely a lot of options between giving the boss every detail and "Family emergency. Period." Something like "I had a family emergency come up with my fiance so I will be out of the office until at least Wednesday and possibly not until Friday", which give a little more detail, is much more personable, but doesn't go into the fine details of what is going on for the OP

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      I doubt "don't be too specific on the details" is a good recommendation. I would say the opposite: be open about the situation.

      – Tero Lahtinen
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      The boss will almost certainly ask the question "when will you be back at work." Think about the answer to that before you start the phone call!

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    • @TeroLahtinen Giving to many details can make it worse, unless you are absolutely certain that the boss will understand the situation. In the situation of OP the boss could argue that it's not an medical emergency and that it doesn't requires immediate action so he doesn't agree with the absence from work. Then what? By not giving details he can't dismiss your situation.

      – kapex
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      @kapex I see your point, but if the boss is likely not to understand the situation, I think she would also not understand the "Family emergency. Period." -approach any better.

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      There is definitely a lot of options between giving the boss every detail and "Family emergency. Period." Something like "I had a family emergency come up with my fiance so I will be out of the office until at least Wednesday and possibly not until Friday", which give a little more detail, is much more personable, but doesn't go into the fine details of what is going on for the OP

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    I doubt "don't be too specific on the details" is a good recommendation. I would say the opposite: be open about the situation.

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    I doubt "don't be too specific on the details" is a good recommendation. I would say the opposite: be open about the situation.

    – Tero Lahtinen
    19 hours ago




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    The boss will almost certainly ask the question "when will you be back at work." Think about the answer to that before you start the phone call!

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    The boss will almost certainly ask the question "when will you be back at work." Think about the answer to that before you start the phone call!

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    @TeroLahtinen Giving to many details can make it worse, unless you are absolutely certain that the boss will understand the situation. In the situation of OP the boss could argue that it's not an medical emergency and that it doesn't requires immediate action so he doesn't agree with the absence from work. Then what? By not giving details he can't dismiss your situation.

    – kapex
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    @TeroLahtinen Giving to many details can make it worse, unless you are absolutely certain that the boss will understand the situation. In the situation of OP the boss could argue that it's not an medical emergency and that it doesn't requires immediate action so he doesn't agree with the absence from work. Then what? By not giving details he can't dismiss your situation.

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    @kapex I see your point, but if the boss is likely not to understand the situation, I think she would also not understand the "Family emergency. Period." -approach any better.

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    @kapex I see your point, but if the boss is likely not to understand the situation, I think she would also not understand the "Family emergency. Period." -approach any better.

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    There is definitely a lot of options between giving the boss every detail and "Family emergency. Period." Something like "I had a family emergency come up with my fiance so I will be out of the office until at least Wednesday and possibly not until Friday", which give a little more detail, is much more personable, but doesn't go into the fine details of what is going on for the OP

    – Kevin Wells
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    There is definitely a lot of options between giving the boss every detail and "Family emergency. Period." Something like "I had a family emergency come up with my fiance so I will be out of the office until at least Wednesday and possibly not until Friday", which give a little more detail, is much more personable, but doesn't go into the fine details of what is going on for the OP

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    The answers so far address the personal angle. Definitely call and explain (leaving out whatever personal details you wish).



    From a legal perspective, google "Abwesenheit aus wichtigem persönlichen Grund" or similar phrases. Sadly, I'm in Austria right now and Google forces links related to Austrian law on me, but I remember from my time in Germany that this exists in German employee law as well.



    IANAL but I have legal training and from my experience you should be legally in the clear. Another common use for this rule is people staying at home if their child is sick and the other parent can't take care of it (e.g. both parents are working).



    Definitely do not falsely claim that you are sick. That would be grounds for an immediate termination if your lie is uncovered.






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      The answers so far address the personal angle. Definitely call and explain (leaving out whatever personal details you wish).



      From a legal perspective, google "Abwesenheit aus wichtigem persönlichen Grund" or similar phrases. Sadly, I'm in Austria right now and Google forces links related to Austrian law on me, but I remember from my time in Germany that this exists in German employee law as well.



      IANAL but I have legal training and from my experience you should be legally in the clear. Another common use for this rule is people staying at home if their child is sick and the other parent can't take care of it (e.g. both parents are working).



      Definitely do not falsely claim that you are sick. That would be grounds for an immediate termination if your lie is uncovered.






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        The answers so far address the personal angle. Definitely call and explain (leaving out whatever personal details you wish).



        From a legal perspective, google "Abwesenheit aus wichtigem persönlichen Grund" or similar phrases. Sadly, I'm in Austria right now and Google forces links related to Austrian law on me, but I remember from my time in Germany that this exists in German employee law as well.



        IANAL but I have legal training and from my experience you should be legally in the clear. Another common use for this rule is people staying at home if their child is sick and the other parent can't take care of it (e.g. both parents are working).



        Definitely do not falsely claim that you are sick. That would be grounds for an immediate termination if your lie is uncovered.






        share|improve this answer













        The answers so far address the personal angle. Definitely call and explain (leaving out whatever personal details you wish).



        From a legal perspective, google "Abwesenheit aus wichtigem persönlichen Grund" or similar phrases. Sadly, I'm in Austria right now and Google forces links related to Austrian law on me, but I remember from my time in Germany that this exists in German employee law as well.



        IANAL but I have legal training and from my experience you should be legally in the clear. Another common use for this rule is people staying at home if their child is sick and the other parent can't take care of it (e.g. both parents are working).



        Definitely do not falsely claim that you are sick. That would be grounds for an immediate termination if your lie is uncovered.







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            I live and work in Germany, and have been both boss and employee.



            I would say that the best way to proceed depends on your boss. Every country is like this, but there is certainly still some xenophobia in Germany.



            If your boss is friendly towards foreigners, then I would give him full disclosure. Tell him exactly what is going on.



            If your boss is generally somebody that looks down on foreigners, then I would give him/her as little information as possible. Giving him information, such as the fact that you have a bride in another country will just fuel his/her fire, and give him more reason to dislike the situation. In this case, just say that you have an extremely important life or death family matter that must be dealt with immediately. In this case, we mean life or death of the baby, but do not tell the boss that. If he presses for details, I would just say that, "I would prefer not to discuss it." No respectable person would press you for more details. If he forces you to give a valid excuse, then I would tell him that you would be glad to talk to HR about the situation. I can't see how a boss needs to know about your personal situation.






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              Not sure this is relevant. Wife is living 1500km away, but that doesn't necessarily imply that OP is not German. In any case, he didn't mention any concern about possible xenophobia from his boss.

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              You are right. I just assumed this to be the case.

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              In any case, his hesitance toward just telling his boss seems to imply to me that he thinks that his boss will not take this well

              – bremen_matt
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              Then, again: the employee might still have Ukrain roots, be a russion speaker or whatever. German xenophobs recently came up with the word Passdeutscher meaning soemone is german because their passport says so, Not because of their bloodline/origin.

              – Bernhard Döbler
              17 hours ago











            • @BernhardDöbler Ah! Like the Swiss Papierschweizer

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            I live and work in Germany, and have been both boss and employee.



            I would say that the best way to proceed depends on your boss. Every country is like this, but there is certainly still some xenophobia in Germany.



            If your boss is friendly towards foreigners, then I would give him full disclosure. Tell him exactly what is going on.



            If your boss is generally somebody that looks down on foreigners, then I would give him/her as little information as possible. Giving him information, such as the fact that you have a bride in another country will just fuel his/her fire, and give him more reason to dislike the situation. In this case, just say that you have an extremely important life or death family matter that must be dealt with immediately. In this case, we mean life or death of the baby, but do not tell the boss that. If he presses for details, I would just say that, "I would prefer not to discuss it." No respectable person would press you for more details. If he forces you to give a valid excuse, then I would tell him that you would be glad to talk to HR about the situation. I can't see how a boss needs to know about your personal situation.






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              Not sure this is relevant. Wife is living 1500km away, but that doesn't necessarily imply that OP is not German. In any case, he didn't mention any concern about possible xenophobia from his boss.

              – dim
              18 hours ago






            • 2





              You are right. I just assumed this to be the case.

              – bremen_matt
              18 hours ago






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              In any case, his hesitance toward just telling his boss seems to imply to me that he thinks that his boss will not take this well

              – bremen_matt
              18 hours ago






            • 5





              Then, again: the employee might still have Ukrain roots, be a russion speaker or whatever. German xenophobs recently came up with the word Passdeutscher meaning soemone is german because their passport says so, Not because of their bloodline/origin.

              – Bernhard Döbler
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            • @BernhardDöbler Ah! Like the Swiss Papierschweizer

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            I live and work in Germany, and have been both boss and employee.



            I would say that the best way to proceed depends on your boss. Every country is like this, but there is certainly still some xenophobia in Germany.



            If your boss is friendly towards foreigners, then I would give him full disclosure. Tell him exactly what is going on.



            If your boss is generally somebody that looks down on foreigners, then I would give him/her as little information as possible. Giving him information, such as the fact that you have a bride in another country will just fuel his/her fire, and give him more reason to dislike the situation. In this case, just say that you have an extremely important life or death family matter that must be dealt with immediately. In this case, we mean life or death of the baby, but do not tell the boss that. If he presses for details, I would just say that, "I would prefer not to discuss it." No respectable person would press you for more details. If he forces you to give a valid excuse, then I would tell him that you would be glad to talk to HR about the situation. I can't see how a boss needs to know about your personal situation.






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            I live and work in Germany, and have been both boss and employee.



            I would say that the best way to proceed depends on your boss. Every country is like this, but there is certainly still some xenophobia in Germany.



            If your boss is friendly towards foreigners, then I would give him full disclosure. Tell him exactly what is going on.



            If your boss is generally somebody that looks down on foreigners, then I would give him/her as little information as possible. Giving him information, such as the fact that you have a bride in another country will just fuel his/her fire, and give him more reason to dislike the situation. In this case, just say that you have an extremely important life or death family matter that must be dealt with immediately. In this case, we mean life or death of the baby, but do not tell the boss that. If he presses for details, I would just say that, "I would prefer not to discuss it." No respectable person would press you for more details. If he forces you to give a valid excuse, then I would tell him that you would be glad to talk to HR about the situation. I can't see how a boss needs to know about your personal situation.







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              Not sure this is relevant. Wife is living 1500km away, but that doesn't necessarily imply that OP is not German. In any case, he didn't mention any concern about possible xenophobia from his boss.

              – dim
              18 hours ago






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              You are right. I just assumed this to be the case.

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              In any case, his hesitance toward just telling his boss seems to imply to me that he thinks that his boss will not take this well

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              Then, again: the employee might still have Ukrain roots, be a russion speaker or whatever. German xenophobs recently came up with the word Passdeutscher meaning soemone is german because their passport says so, Not because of their bloodline/origin.

              – Bernhard Döbler
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            • @BernhardDöbler Ah! Like the Swiss Papierschweizer

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              Not sure this is relevant. Wife is living 1500km away, but that doesn't necessarily imply that OP is not German. In any case, he didn't mention any concern about possible xenophobia from his boss.

              – dim
              18 hours ago






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              You are right. I just assumed this to be the case.

              – bremen_matt
              18 hours ago






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              In any case, his hesitance toward just telling his boss seems to imply to me that he thinks that his boss will not take this well

              – bremen_matt
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            • 5





              Then, again: the employee might still have Ukrain roots, be a russion speaker or whatever. German xenophobs recently came up with the word Passdeutscher meaning soemone is german because their passport says so, Not because of their bloodline/origin.

              – Bernhard Döbler
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            • @BernhardDöbler Ah! Like the Swiss Papierschweizer

              – Martin Bonner
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            Not sure this is relevant. Wife is living 1500km away, but that doesn't necessarily imply that OP is not German. In any case, he didn't mention any concern about possible xenophobia from his boss.

            – dim
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            Not sure this is relevant. Wife is living 1500km away, but that doesn't necessarily imply that OP is not German. In any case, he didn't mention any concern about possible xenophobia from his boss.

            – dim
            18 hours ago




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            You are right. I just assumed this to be the case.

            – bremen_matt
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            You are right. I just assumed this to be the case.

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            In any case, his hesitance toward just telling his boss seems to imply to me that he thinks that his boss will not take this well

            – bremen_matt
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            In any case, his hesitance toward just telling his boss seems to imply to me that he thinks that his boss will not take this well

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            Then, again: the employee might still have Ukrain roots, be a russion speaker or whatever. German xenophobs recently came up with the word Passdeutscher meaning soemone is german because their passport says so, Not because of their bloodline/origin.

            – Bernhard Döbler
            17 hours ago





            Then, again: the employee might still have Ukrain roots, be a russion speaker or whatever. German xenophobs recently came up with the word Passdeutscher meaning soemone is german because their passport says so, Not because of their bloodline/origin.

            – Bernhard Döbler
            17 hours ago













            @BernhardDöbler Ah! Like the Swiss Papierschweizer

            – Martin Bonner
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            @BernhardDöbler Ah! Like the Swiss Papierschweizer

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            Already a bit late, but at the companies where I have worked this would be handled by calling the immediate superior and asking for a day off or two (Gleitzeit/Urlaub) because of a family emergency. HR and higher management would not even know that something unusual happened. However, if your company is very small, things might work differently.



            Many German employees can also take sick leave for up to three days without seeing the doctor. But I would not recommend that in this case, as employers take that very seriously and some coworkers do not really like that either.



            Even if your employer thinks that "troublesome girlfriend" is not a valid excuse for missing work, you might still just get a Abmahnung (kind of a last warning) instead of firing you. But that obviously depends a lot on your boss.



            P.S. a short google search suggests that an Abmahnung is indeed mandatory before firing someone for missing work. I any case, I would still strongly suggest to try to solve this without getting an Abmahnung.






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              – Martin Schröder
              13 hours ago











            • No. Three calendar days means that if he gets sick on Friday, he has to see the doctor on Monday. If he gets sick on Monday, he has to see the doctor on Thursday. But as said, this is not what I would recommend anyway.

              – Jan
              12 hours ago






            • 1





              "Many German employees can also take sick leave for up to three days without seeing the doctor." Faking an illness can be grounds for immediate termination (Fristlose Kuendigung), so yeah that sounds like a less than brilliant plan indeed.

              – Voo
              4 hours ago


















            1














            Already a bit late, but at the companies where I have worked this would be handled by calling the immediate superior and asking for a day off or two (Gleitzeit/Urlaub) because of a family emergency. HR and higher management would not even know that something unusual happened. However, if your company is very small, things might work differently.



            Many German employees can also take sick leave for up to three days without seeing the doctor. But I would not recommend that in this case, as employers take that very seriously and some coworkers do not really like that either.



            Even if your employer thinks that "troublesome girlfriend" is not a valid excuse for missing work, you might still just get a Abmahnung (kind of a last warning) instead of firing you. But that obviously depends a lot on your boss.



            P.S. a short google search suggests that an Abmahnung is indeed mandatory before firing someone for missing work. I any case, I would still strongly suggest to try to solve this without getting an Abmahnung.






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            • Note that the three sick days count calendar days, so that only allows him Monday.

              – Martin Schröder
              13 hours ago











            • No. Three calendar days means that if he gets sick on Friday, he has to see the doctor on Monday. If he gets sick on Monday, he has to see the doctor on Thursday. But as said, this is not what I would recommend anyway.

              – Jan
              12 hours ago






            • 1





              "Many German employees can also take sick leave for up to three days without seeing the doctor." Faking an illness can be grounds for immediate termination (Fristlose Kuendigung), so yeah that sounds like a less than brilliant plan indeed.

              – Voo
              4 hours ago
















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            1







            Already a bit late, but at the companies where I have worked this would be handled by calling the immediate superior and asking for a day off or two (Gleitzeit/Urlaub) because of a family emergency. HR and higher management would not even know that something unusual happened. However, if your company is very small, things might work differently.



            Many German employees can also take sick leave for up to three days without seeing the doctor. But I would not recommend that in this case, as employers take that very seriously and some coworkers do not really like that either.



            Even if your employer thinks that "troublesome girlfriend" is not a valid excuse for missing work, you might still just get a Abmahnung (kind of a last warning) instead of firing you. But that obviously depends a lot on your boss.



            P.S. a short google search suggests that an Abmahnung is indeed mandatory before firing someone for missing work. I any case, I would still strongly suggest to try to solve this without getting an Abmahnung.






            share|improve this answer















            Already a bit late, but at the companies where I have worked this would be handled by calling the immediate superior and asking for a day off or two (Gleitzeit/Urlaub) because of a family emergency. HR and higher management would not even know that something unusual happened. However, if your company is very small, things might work differently.



            Many German employees can also take sick leave for up to three days without seeing the doctor. But I would not recommend that in this case, as employers take that very seriously and some coworkers do not really like that either.



            Even if your employer thinks that "troublesome girlfriend" is not a valid excuse for missing work, you might still just get a Abmahnung (kind of a last warning) instead of firing you. But that obviously depends a lot on your boss.



            P.S. a short google search suggests that an Abmahnung is indeed mandatory before firing someone for missing work. I any case, I would still strongly suggest to try to solve this without getting an Abmahnung.







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            • Note that the three sick days count calendar days, so that only allows him Monday.

              – Martin Schröder
              13 hours ago











            • No. Three calendar days means that if he gets sick on Friday, he has to see the doctor on Monday. If he gets sick on Monday, he has to see the doctor on Thursday. But as said, this is not what I would recommend anyway.

              – Jan
              12 hours ago






            • 1





              "Many German employees can also take sick leave for up to three days without seeing the doctor." Faking an illness can be grounds for immediate termination (Fristlose Kuendigung), so yeah that sounds like a less than brilliant plan indeed.

              – Voo
              4 hours ago





















            • Note that the three sick days count calendar days, so that only allows him Monday.

              – Martin Schröder
              13 hours ago











            • No. Three calendar days means that if he gets sick on Friday, he has to see the doctor on Monday. If he gets sick on Monday, he has to see the doctor on Thursday. But as said, this is not what I would recommend anyway.

              – Jan
              12 hours ago






            • 1





              "Many German employees can also take sick leave for up to three days without seeing the doctor." Faking an illness can be grounds for immediate termination (Fristlose Kuendigung), so yeah that sounds like a less than brilliant plan indeed.

              – Voo
              4 hours ago



















            Note that the three sick days count calendar days, so that only allows him Monday.

            – Martin Schröder
            13 hours ago





            Note that the three sick days count calendar days, so that only allows him Monday.

            – Martin Schröder
            13 hours ago













            No. Three calendar days means that if he gets sick on Friday, he has to see the doctor on Monday. If he gets sick on Monday, he has to see the doctor on Thursday. But as said, this is not what I would recommend anyway.

            – Jan
            12 hours ago





            No. Three calendar days means that if he gets sick on Friday, he has to see the doctor on Monday. If he gets sick on Monday, he has to see the doctor on Thursday. But as said, this is not what I would recommend anyway.

            – Jan
            12 hours ago




            1




            1





            "Many German employees can also take sick leave for up to three days without seeing the doctor." Faking an illness can be grounds for immediate termination (Fristlose Kuendigung), so yeah that sounds like a less than brilliant plan indeed.

            – Voo
            4 hours ago







            "Many German employees can also take sick leave for up to three days without seeing the doctor." Faking an illness can be grounds for immediate termination (Fristlose Kuendigung), so yeah that sounds like a less than brilliant plan indeed.

            – Voo
            4 hours ago




















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