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I am trying to make a symbol for a "twisted product". I've tried stackrel:



$A mathbin{stackrel{sim}{times}} B$


but the sim floats too high above the times, causing unpleasant line spacing. I've also tried widetilde



$A mathbin{widetilde{times}} B$ 


but it has the same problem. Ideally I'd like the tilde to have the same width as the times and for the spacing between the two to be pretty tight.










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    Have a look at “How to look up a math symbol?” for ideas how you can easily find a particular symbol.

    – Matthew Leingang
    Mar 3 '11 at 18:20











  • I tried detexify and looking at the CTAN list. No joy.

    – Sam Nead
    Mar 3 '11 at 18:57
















6















I am trying to make a symbol for a "twisted product". I've tried stackrel:



$A mathbin{stackrel{sim}{times}} B$


but the sim floats too high above the times, causing unpleasant line spacing. I've also tried widetilde



$A mathbin{widetilde{times}} B$ 


but it has the same problem. Ideally I'd like the tilde to have the same width as the times and for the spacing between the two to be pretty tight.










share|improve this question




















  • 1





    Have a look at “How to look up a math symbol?” for ideas how you can easily find a particular symbol.

    – Matthew Leingang
    Mar 3 '11 at 18:20











  • I tried detexify and looking at the CTAN list. No joy.

    – Sam Nead
    Mar 3 '11 at 18:57














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I am trying to make a symbol for a "twisted product". I've tried stackrel:



$A mathbin{stackrel{sim}{times}} B$


but the sim floats too high above the times, causing unpleasant line spacing. I've also tried widetilde



$A mathbin{widetilde{times}} B$ 


but it has the same problem. Ideally I'd like the tilde to have the same width as the times and for the spacing between the two to be pretty tight.










share|improve this question
















I am trying to make a symbol for a "twisted product". I've tried stackrel:



$A mathbin{stackrel{sim}{times}} B$


but the sim floats too high above the times, causing unpleasant line spacing. I've also tried widetilde



$A mathbin{widetilde{times}} B$ 


but it has the same problem. Ideally I'd like the tilde to have the same width as the times and for the spacing between the two to be pretty tight.







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    Have a look at “How to look up a math symbol?” for ideas how you can easily find a particular symbol.

    – Matthew Leingang
    Mar 3 '11 at 18:20











  • I tried detexify and looking at the CTAN list. No joy.

    – Sam Nead
    Mar 3 '11 at 18:57














  • 1





    Have a look at “How to look up a math symbol?” for ideas how you can easily find a particular symbol.

    – Matthew Leingang
    Mar 3 '11 at 18:20











  • I tried detexify and looking at the CTAN list. No joy.

    – Sam Nead
    Mar 3 '11 at 18:57








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Have a look at “How to look up a math symbol?” for ideas how you can easily find a particular symbol.

– Matthew Leingang
Mar 3 '11 at 18:20





Have a look at “How to look up a math symbol?” for ideas how you can easily find a particular symbol.

– Matthew Leingang
Mar 3 '11 at 18:20













I tried detexify and looking at the CTAN list. No joy.

– Sam Nead
Mar 3 '11 at 18:57





I tried detexify and looking at the CTAN list. No joy.

– Sam Nead
Mar 3 '11 at 18:57










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Detexify didn't help, so maybe you really have to do it yourself:



newcommandsimtimes{mathbin{%
stackrel{sim}{smash{times}rule{0pt}{0.9ex}}%
}}


Adjust the 0.9ex to your needs.






share|improve this answer



















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    Perfect. I used 0.6ex. Thank you very much!

    – Sam Nead
    Mar 3 '11 at 19:03



















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For slightly improved spacing displayed and inline, you can use ooalign. The code is



newcommand{twprod}{mathbin{%
ooalign{raise1.15exhbox{$scriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$times$hidewidthcr}%
}}


enter image description here



If you will ever use the symbol in a subscript or superscript, mathchoice allows for greatly improved spacing in scriptstyle. The height of the sim is easily adjustable by changing the 1.15ex for display and inline, .85ex for script and (though I can't imagine using it) .65ex for scriptscript.



documentclass{article}

newcommand{twprod}{mathbin{mathchoice%
{ooalign{raise1.15exhbox{$scriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$times$hidewidthcr}}%
{ooalign{raise1.15exhbox{$scriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$times$hidewidthcr}}%
{ooalign{raise.85exhbox{$scriptscriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$scriptstyletimes$hidewidthcr}}%
{ooalign{raise.65exhbox{$scriptscriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$scriptscriptstyletimes$hidewidthcr}}%
}}

begin{document}

$S^2twprod S^2quad F_{S^2twprod S^2}$

end{document}





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    The parameters 0.7 and 0.3 might be needed adjustment if used with different fonts.



    documentclass{article}
    usepackage{amsmath}
    usepackage{graphicx}

    % a general purpose macro
    newcommand{xmathpalette}[2]{mathchoice
    {#1displaystyletextfont{#2}}%
    {#1textstyletextfont{#2}}%
    {#1scriptstylescriptfont{#2}}%
    {#1scriptscriptstylescriptscriptfont{#2}}%
    }

    makeatletter
    newcommand{twistedproduct}{%
    mathbin{xmathpalettetwisted@productrelax}%
    }

    newcommand{twisted@product}[3]{%
    vbox{%
    ialign{hfil##hfilcr
    scalebox{0.7}{$m@th#1sim$}cr
    noalign{nointerlineskipkern-0.3fontdimen5 #2 2}
    $m@th#1times$cr
    }%
    }%
    }
    makeatother

    begin{document}

    $S^2twistedproduct S^2$ $X_{twistedproduct_{twistedproduct}}$

    end{document}


    The macro xmathpalette is an extension of mathpalette that makes also the font in the current style (textfont, scriptfont or scriptscriptfont). In this case we use it to access the x-height of the symbol font for the current style.



    enter image description here





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      Detexify didn't help, so maybe you really have to do it yourself:



      newcommandsimtimes{mathbin{%
      stackrel{sim}{smash{times}rule{0pt}{0.9ex}}%
      }}


      Adjust the 0.9ex to your needs.






      share|improve this answer



















      • 1





        Perfect. I used 0.6ex. Thank you very much!

        – Sam Nead
        Mar 3 '11 at 19:03
















      10














      Detexify didn't help, so maybe you really have to do it yourself:



      newcommandsimtimes{mathbin{%
      stackrel{sim}{smash{times}rule{0pt}{0.9ex}}%
      }}


      Adjust the 0.9ex to your needs.






      share|improve this answer



















      • 1





        Perfect. I used 0.6ex. Thank you very much!

        – Sam Nead
        Mar 3 '11 at 19:03














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      10








      10







      Detexify didn't help, so maybe you really have to do it yourself:



      newcommandsimtimes{mathbin{%
      stackrel{sim}{smash{times}rule{0pt}{0.9ex}}%
      }}


      Adjust the 0.9ex to your needs.






      share|improve this answer













      Detexify didn't help, so maybe you really have to do it yourself:



      newcommandsimtimes{mathbin{%
      stackrel{sim}{smash{times}rule{0pt}{0.9ex}}%
      }}


      Adjust the 0.9ex to your needs.







      share|improve this answer












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      • 1





        Perfect. I used 0.6ex. Thank you very much!

        – Sam Nead
        Mar 3 '11 at 19:03














      • 1





        Perfect. I used 0.6ex. Thank you very much!

        – Sam Nead
        Mar 3 '11 at 19:03








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      1





      Perfect. I used 0.6ex. Thank you very much!

      – Sam Nead
      Mar 3 '11 at 19:03





      Perfect. I used 0.6ex. Thank you very much!

      – Sam Nead
      Mar 3 '11 at 19:03











      1














      For slightly improved spacing displayed and inline, you can use ooalign. The code is



      newcommand{twprod}{mathbin{%
      ooalign{raise1.15exhbox{$scriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$times$hidewidthcr}%
      }}


      enter image description here



      If you will ever use the symbol in a subscript or superscript, mathchoice allows for greatly improved spacing in scriptstyle. The height of the sim is easily adjustable by changing the 1.15ex for display and inline, .85ex for script and (though I can't imagine using it) .65ex for scriptscript.



      documentclass{article}

      newcommand{twprod}{mathbin{mathchoice%
      {ooalign{raise1.15exhbox{$scriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$times$hidewidthcr}}%
      {ooalign{raise1.15exhbox{$scriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$times$hidewidthcr}}%
      {ooalign{raise.85exhbox{$scriptscriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$scriptstyletimes$hidewidthcr}}%
      {ooalign{raise.65exhbox{$scriptscriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$scriptscriptstyletimes$hidewidthcr}}%
      }}

      begin{document}

      $S^2twprod S^2quad F_{S^2twprod S^2}$

      end{document}





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        For slightly improved spacing displayed and inline, you can use ooalign. The code is



        newcommand{twprod}{mathbin{%
        ooalign{raise1.15exhbox{$scriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$times$hidewidthcr}%
        }}


        enter image description here



        If you will ever use the symbol in a subscript or superscript, mathchoice allows for greatly improved spacing in scriptstyle. The height of the sim is easily adjustable by changing the 1.15ex for display and inline, .85ex for script and (though I can't imagine using it) .65ex for scriptscript.



        documentclass{article}

        newcommand{twprod}{mathbin{mathchoice%
        {ooalign{raise1.15exhbox{$scriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$times$hidewidthcr}}%
        {ooalign{raise1.15exhbox{$scriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$times$hidewidthcr}}%
        {ooalign{raise.85exhbox{$scriptscriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$scriptstyletimes$hidewidthcr}}%
        {ooalign{raise.65exhbox{$scriptscriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$scriptscriptstyletimes$hidewidthcr}}%
        }}

        begin{document}

        $S^2twprod S^2quad F_{S^2twprod S^2}$

        end{document}





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          For slightly improved spacing displayed and inline, you can use ooalign. The code is



          newcommand{twprod}{mathbin{%
          ooalign{raise1.15exhbox{$scriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$times$hidewidthcr}%
          }}


          enter image description here



          If you will ever use the symbol in a subscript or superscript, mathchoice allows for greatly improved spacing in scriptstyle. The height of the sim is easily adjustable by changing the 1.15ex for display and inline, .85ex for script and (though I can't imagine using it) .65ex for scriptscript.



          documentclass{article}

          newcommand{twprod}{mathbin{mathchoice%
          {ooalign{raise1.15exhbox{$scriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$times$hidewidthcr}}%
          {ooalign{raise1.15exhbox{$scriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$times$hidewidthcr}}%
          {ooalign{raise.85exhbox{$scriptscriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$scriptstyletimes$hidewidthcr}}%
          {ooalign{raise.65exhbox{$scriptscriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$scriptscriptstyletimes$hidewidthcr}}%
          }}

          begin{document}

          $S^2twprod S^2quad F_{S^2twprod S^2}$

          end{document}





          share|improve this answer













          For slightly improved spacing displayed and inline, you can use ooalign. The code is



          newcommand{twprod}{mathbin{%
          ooalign{raise1.15exhbox{$scriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$times$hidewidthcr}%
          }}


          enter image description here



          If you will ever use the symbol in a subscript or superscript, mathchoice allows for greatly improved spacing in scriptstyle. The height of the sim is easily adjustable by changing the 1.15ex for display and inline, .85ex for script and (though I can't imagine using it) .65ex for scriptscript.



          documentclass{article}

          newcommand{twprod}{mathbin{mathchoice%
          {ooalign{raise1.15exhbox{$scriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$times$hidewidthcr}}%
          {ooalign{raise1.15exhbox{$scriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$times$hidewidthcr}}%
          {ooalign{raise.85exhbox{$scriptscriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$scriptstyletimes$hidewidthcr}}%
          {ooalign{raise.65exhbox{$scriptscriptstylesim$}crhidewidth$scriptscriptstyletimes$hidewidthcr}}%
          }}

          begin{document}

          $S^2twprod S^2quad F_{S^2twprod S^2}$

          end{document}






          share|improve this answer












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              The parameters 0.7 and 0.3 might be needed adjustment if used with different fonts.



              documentclass{article}
              usepackage{amsmath}
              usepackage{graphicx}

              % a general purpose macro
              newcommand{xmathpalette}[2]{mathchoice
              {#1displaystyletextfont{#2}}%
              {#1textstyletextfont{#2}}%
              {#1scriptstylescriptfont{#2}}%
              {#1scriptscriptstylescriptscriptfont{#2}}%
              }

              makeatletter
              newcommand{twistedproduct}{%
              mathbin{xmathpalettetwisted@productrelax}%
              }

              newcommand{twisted@product}[3]{%
              vbox{%
              ialign{hfil##hfilcr
              scalebox{0.7}{$m@th#1sim$}cr
              noalign{nointerlineskipkern-0.3fontdimen5 #2 2}
              $m@th#1times$cr
              }%
              }%
              }
              makeatother

              begin{document}

              $S^2twistedproduct S^2$ $X_{twistedproduct_{twistedproduct}}$

              end{document}


              The macro xmathpalette is an extension of mathpalette that makes also the font in the current style (textfont, scriptfont or scriptscriptfont). In this case we use it to access the x-height of the symbol font for the current style.



              enter image description here





              share




























                0














                The parameters 0.7 and 0.3 might be needed adjustment if used with different fonts.



                documentclass{article}
                usepackage{amsmath}
                usepackage{graphicx}

                % a general purpose macro
                newcommand{xmathpalette}[2]{mathchoice
                {#1displaystyletextfont{#2}}%
                {#1textstyletextfont{#2}}%
                {#1scriptstylescriptfont{#2}}%
                {#1scriptscriptstylescriptscriptfont{#2}}%
                }

                makeatletter
                newcommand{twistedproduct}{%
                mathbin{xmathpalettetwisted@productrelax}%
                }

                newcommand{twisted@product}[3]{%
                vbox{%
                ialign{hfil##hfilcr
                scalebox{0.7}{$m@th#1sim$}cr
                noalign{nointerlineskipkern-0.3fontdimen5 #2 2}
                $m@th#1times$cr
                }%
                }%
                }
                makeatother

                begin{document}

                $S^2twistedproduct S^2$ $X_{twistedproduct_{twistedproduct}}$

                end{document}


                The macro xmathpalette is an extension of mathpalette that makes also the font in the current style (textfont, scriptfont or scriptscriptfont). In this case we use it to access the x-height of the symbol font for the current style.



                enter image description here





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                  The parameters 0.7 and 0.3 might be needed adjustment if used with different fonts.



                  documentclass{article}
                  usepackage{amsmath}
                  usepackage{graphicx}

                  % a general purpose macro
                  newcommand{xmathpalette}[2]{mathchoice
                  {#1displaystyletextfont{#2}}%
                  {#1textstyletextfont{#2}}%
                  {#1scriptstylescriptfont{#2}}%
                  {#1scriptscriptstylescriptscriptfont{#2}}%
                  }

                  makeatletter
                  newcommand{twistedproduct}{%
                  mathbin{xmathpalettetwisted@productrelax}%
                  }

                  newcommand{twisted@product}[3]{%
                  vbox{%
                  ialign{hfil##hfilcr
                  scalebox{0.7}{$m@th#1sim$}cr
                  noalign{nointerlineskipkern-0.3fontdimen5 #2 2}
                  $m@th#1times$cr
                  }%
                  }%
                  }
                  makeatother

                  begin{document}

                  $S^2twistedproduct S^2$ $X_{twistedproduct_{twistedproduct}}$

                  end{document}


                  The macro xmathpalette is an extension of mathpalette that makes also the font in the current style (textfont, scriptfont or scriptscriptfont). In this case we use it to access the x-height of the symbol font for the current style.



                  enter image description here





                  share













                  The parameters 0.7 and 0.3 might be needed adjustment if used with different fonts.



                  documentclass{article}
                  usepackage{amsmath}
                  usepackage{graphicx}

                  % a general purpose macro
                  newcommand{xmathpalette}[2]{mathchoice
                  {#1displaystyletextfont{#2}}%
                  {#1textstyletextfont{#2}}%
                  {#1scriptstylescriptfont{#2}}%
                  {#1scriptscriptstylescriptscriptfont{#2}}%
                  }

                  makeatletter
                  newcommand{twistedproduct}{%
                  mathbin{xmathpalettetwisted@productrelax}%
                  }

                  newcommand{twisted@product}[3]{%
                  vbox{%
                  ialign{hfil##hfilcr
                  scalebox{0.7}{$m@th#1sim$}cr
                  noalign{nointerlineskipkern-0.3fontdimen5 #2 2}
                  $m@th#1times$cr
                  }%
                  }%
                  }
                  makeatother

                  begin{document}

                  $S^2twistedproduct S^2$ $X_{twistedproduct_{twistedproduct}}$

                  end{document}


                  The macro xmathpalette is an extension of mathpalette that makes also the font in the current style (textfont, scriptfont or scriptscriptfont). In this case we use it to access the x-height of the symbol font for the current style.



                  enter image description here






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